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    ^ Agree, from what you describe, it seems your battery is weaken toast. Sounds like best to replace battery with new one. Buying a battery online or from good battery supplier other than your dealer should save some cost. Suggest use the battery make and model type number (or take old one to shops) to get a replacement. Quoting battery model type is better than using the bikes model number. Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X Plane View Post
    ^ Agree, from what you describe, it seems your battery is weaken toast. Sounds like best to replace battery with new one. Buying a battery online or from good battery supplier other than your dealer should save some cost. Suggest use the battery make and model type number (or take old one to shops) to get a replacement. Quoting battery model type is better than using the bikes model number. Hope this helps.
    Thank you X Plane. W.r.t changing a battery, i just called a yamaha dealer who says it costs 90pounds and the cheapest i have managed online is 120pounds. so looks like dealer cheaper. also, if i try to replace it myself, is it just a lift and replace or more technical ?

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    ^ Replacing is Straightforward lift out old and replace new in same way.

    Black wire off old - first is best and then the Red wire off old + Then Red wire on first onto new + and then Black wire onto new - is the best way to do a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X Plane View Post
    ^ Replacing is Straightforward lift out old and replace new in same way.

    Black wire off old - first is best and then the Red wire off old + Then Red wire on first onto new + and then Black wire onto new - is the best way do to a change.
    Cool. Order placed for 65gbp. will come next week.

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    Can't believe that I've just fallen fowl to this bloody P nonsense. Just got kitted up to go out no bloody ignition. Hope I can restore it using the optimate otherwise I'll be seriously pissed off.

    Think I'll clear the dog turds off the lawn instead as my pennance for being such a twat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickymicky65 View Post
    Can't believe that I've just fallen fowl to this bloody P nonsense. Just got kitted up to go out no bloody ignition. Hope I can restore it using the optimate otherwise I'll be seriously pissed off.

    Think I'll clear the dog turds off the lawn instead as my pennance for being such a twat.
    Fingers crossed optimate recovers your battery.
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    Fingers crossed optimate recovers your battery.
    Has it hell, can't believe its only been flat once & it's fcked. Just checked & tried to start. Nothing.

    Another lesson learnt the hard/expensive way.

    Maybe OK, Just read the optimate instructions, now charging as it should be. Thought overnight would have been sufficient time. These operators manuals are wonderful things.
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    Apparently if the battery is totally drained ,100% flatten, that kills it;

    I.e. It can be allover/dead/toast/kaput/goosed/wasted/finished/the-end-of-that-battery.
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    Apparently if the battery is totally drained ,100% flatten, that kills it;

    I.e. It can be allover/dead/toast/kaput/goosed/wasted/finished/the-end-of-that-battery.
    Thank Fcuk I think it's ok.

    I costed a replacement £50.00 for a Yusa from my local battery specialist & others available cheaper on E Bay. Avoid your local bike dealer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X Plane View Post
    To avoid, like a plague, ANY type of confusion...

    I'll spell it all out word by word by word, shall I Rainny :

    My comment / point was just to optimistly comment on the Post # 34's question of:

    'So, is my battery toast?', by daring to suggest should try out a BETTER HIGH QUALITY Trickle charger on the battery first, that's all!!!! I take your point on its not a leisure battery, which may recover easier from flat, get him one of those, lol.

    To me it appeared that a HIGH QUALITY trickle charger had not even been used, this time round on his 2nd battery in the bike

    The OP read that a new battery was already got before, from a previous P draining time episode, lol.

    So anyway I deemed it worth the massive crazy dare eh to comment to suggest trying a very HIGH quality trickle charger because some batteries did recover!

    So I said 'SHOULD' not 'WILL' or YOU / HE MUST, no big deal eh, as way of suggesting to try a proper good quality non-cheapo trickle charger which did recover the battery for some people.

    Anyhow, THERE WOULD BE ABOLSUTLEY NOTHING TO LOSE really, except for some 240 Volt electric oblivious, , from trying out a good 12 volt trickle charger first!

    Ah well. But oh, no, no, no, no, let some Rainy pooh pooh stuff slip in and let's all think the absolute god darn rainy worse most or all of the time eh. I'm an optimist an optimiser 12 Volt charger

    Glad no one is banging on talking about tangential kill switch nonsense stuff any more regarding this thread, lol.

    Ah so I now say, IN TOTAL JEST, In Jest, god dam it just weld up or blank off the P position...

    Or, as someone here said, just turn key full way anti-clockwise round and then back one click clockwise and then take the key out. As that way the bike will not be left parked up in the dreaded and awful battery draining P position.

    Anyhow, we gotta ask ourselves, how many times do the hazards lights need to used and turned on with key out in the P position.

    There are no god dam parking lights on the darn bike anyway and there is not even a dash warning light to show that bike is in the badly designed battery draining awful P position.

    Darn Battery drains in that P position even when no hazards are turned on �� �� Umm I wonder do other Yamahas do that to in P.

    Anyhow, anyway etc etc, the bad dreaded P position is the REAL culprit here... ��

    Over & out but hopefully no 12 voltage draining out, well not here anyhow, lol.

    Maybe worth telling all newbies of the Perilious Paradoxical conundrum. So they are aware of the perplexities of MT10 ownership relating to key position and the ignition parable. Avoid mentioning the kill switch as this only adds to the complication and is not really relevent to the problems encountered from the P position perplexity.
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